Harthric

Can someone explain why Corrin/Kamui is a bad inclusion for sm4sh?

flaxrxiii:

harthric:

From what I understand, there are two main arguments:

1. It’s another Fire Emblem character.

2. It’s another swordfighter.

What I really don’t understand is why these are problems.

1. This brings it to 6 Fire Emblem characters (technically 5 since Lucina is just a Marth clone). Zelda has 5 characters as well, and Pokemon has 6. The Super Mario series has 8, to be fair.

2.  I don’t get why it’s a problem to have another swordfighter. With Corrin, that brings the number of swordfighters up to 12. There are 58 characters in total. Swordfighters don’t even comprise ¼ of the roster, heck, they almost comprise 1/5 of it. Plus, Corrin is a very unique fighter, and extremely different from all the rest of the swordfighters already in the game. Most of his attacks hardly even utilize the sword.

So, what’s the issue?

Salt mostly

They’re upset about the blatant advertising and claim Cornbread took the spot of that irrelevant fatass crocodile that MISSED THE BUS FOURTEEN YEARS AGO AND THAT NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT NOW.

They’re upset that Smash 4 favors modern Nintendo characters instead of the classics, even though the classics have been WELL accounted for in the past three games. Every classic character that matters is already (or has already been) in Smash.

A new era has begun and we can only expect Inkling, Wonder Red, Henry Flemming, Bandanna Dee, Rhythm Heaven, and beyond for Smash 5 and onward. All the Salty Sanders need to get with the times or drown in their salt beds because we’re only moving forward from here!

I personally love the addition of Kamui. Though I’m just slightly miffed since I didn’t think we’d be allowed another Fire Emblem character and I wanted the next one to be Anna. I also wanted the next sword fighter to be Sora so I lost in both aspects. Either way, Kamui looks like tons of fun and I’ll definitely pick him/her up on release.

Well, Corrin didn’t necessarily “take a spot.” I don’t get why this is such a scapegoat as to why people are mad because they use it on all the characters that didn’t. Dark Pit, Lucina, and Dr. Mario, the original 3 “spot takers,” are clones, were originally pallet swaps, and all Sakurai did was make them their own icon. They literally took 0% effort from the team. Corrin is in a similar boat. After Cloud they were going to only release one more character, the Smash Ballot winner, Bayonetta. However, since Fire Emblem Fates is going to be released in North America soon, they wanted to build hype for it because Fire Emblem is a popular series. If anyone “took a spot” from someone else, it’s actually Bayonetta. Which seems vaguely appropriate. And, people obviously still care for King K. Rool, because Sakurai designed the Mii Fighter costume, because that’s what they are, fanfare. Same with Chrom, Tails and Knuckles, Geno, etc.

Most of the classics are very well represented, yes, but more could be done. Such as with Metroid, who only has two characters in Smash, and they’re literally both Samus. There is under-representation in series like Metroid and Donkey Kong, and slight over-representation in cases like Super Mario, who has 8 characters. Granted, I like all the Super Mario characters, but there’s a LOT of them even though there aren’t many of other characters from the other series.

While it’s hard to say what’ll happen in the next Smash Bros, I do agree that, in some manner, we’re moving forward, and have been since Brawl (which, I know, is hard to believe). It was originally strictly Nintendo characters who had a very straightforward, strict moveset and ability list. But, Sakurai realized that people want characters from other games, and he’s grown fond of that idea. We now have a game in which Mario can fight Sonic, Mega Man, Ryu, Pac-Man, Cloud, Link, and Bayonetta. And now, Bayonetta can combo, Corrin has a straight pinning move, Ryu has his button combos straight from Street Fighter, Cloud has a Limit Gauge, and so on.

I wasn’t expecting another FE character either. I was honestly hoping for someone like Shantae so that Nintendo would show some love for the Indie games. Sora was also a hopeful choice for me, but now that Square Enix was on board with Cloud, it’s totally possible that we’ll be seeing Sora join the fight in the future, which will be a glorious day.

(via flaxrxiii)